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and compensation for their relatives. our world affairs correspondent, jon brain, is in oslo and has spoken to one of the survivors from the island. >> more and more he details are emerging of what happened on that island, as anders breivik carried out his 90-minute gun rampage. some of the information coming from the survivors who had a particular trauma there. ivan is one of them. ivan, you actually came pretty much face to face with the gunman. tell me what happened. >> well, when he started shooting, we ran down to the water on the back side of the island, and i tried to hide behind some rocks, but there were too many of us to hide, and up to 40, 45 minutes, he came out, and he saw us and he told us that we were from the police and he was safe. i didn't believe him, and some of the other guys did, and he shot them. and he started shooting around me, and he got several several of the guys around me, and then he had to reload his gun. and then i got my chance to get away, and i run into the water, and i started swimming. i got my clothes off, boots off, and started swimming. >> was he still firi
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